RE2 Interview with Pastor Ted Haggard

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From church government to federal government, we talk with Pastor Ted Haggard about various topics, including: Redemption, restoration, grace, charismatic gifts, his pastoral calling, socialized medicine, republican and democrats, the relationship between the Bible and the law, Barack Obama and much more!

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4 thoughts on “RE2 Interview with Pastor Ted Haggard

  1. My name is Michael, I am 38 years old and I study the Bible very long years. I think that Christianity in America has degenerated, the world penetrated in the of all the churches . This is a problem of all Christian churches, around the world , neither in the U.S. alone ! I live in Ukraine, I am a disabled, parents do no , I live in a home for the elderly, but none of the Christians, do not want to help me come in the U.S.! If Christians have carefully read and penetrated into what Jesus said in this place : ( Matf.25 :34- 46) , they would , were astonished at how many good deeds they are not made ​​for those who ask for help. Therefore , Jesus in this message identified two groups of people , which group
    be able to get Christians and what eventually will, get the they. Choice is theirs! God bless!

  2. Interesting discussion. Really grateful for grace. I was disappointed that Haggard, when asked about how the two parties in the US are basically the same, resorted to the talking points…

    Talking points are used during elections. Once in power, the policies don’t really differ.

  3. I found Haggard politically naive to the realities of American power and government, but probably reflects the mainstream view of evangelicals. Among other things, Haggard suggested that many people have given their lives so that Americans could participate in government. This is a myth.

    No Americans have really died for “our freedoms”, unless we’re talking about people who served in the Northern armies and died to free slaves.

    Many were killed to pursue the agendas of the government and their corporate or wealthy backers, however.

    Americans’ ability to participate in government was never at risk by the British or anyone else… Before the Revolution, Parliament responded to American petitions to rescind every unpopular law Parliament passed (petitioning Parliament was the constitutional way to lobby for or against a law) except the Stamp Act (which was passed to pay off the debt the UK incurred in defending the Americans from the French in the Seven Years’ War/French & Indian War).

    Among other things, the Stamp Act forced Americans to purchase an item some of them didn’t want (sound familiar?). To make the Stamp Act the most profitable, the British enforced existing laws that prevented American wealthy business owners from trading with other European powers. This impacted the profits of people like George Washington and Sam Adams… two of the richest men in the colonies. (Yes, there were ideals they fought for too, but ideals are easy to fight for when your pocketbook is being pilfered by the government to pay off debt). Once Parliament’s actions affected the very rich, the Revolution was on. All that was needed was the propaganda of good writers like Thomas Paine. They just needed to convince a third of the people to revolt… 2/3s were not in favor of the Revolution.

    But anyway, until the Americans tried breaking the laws they didn’t like, their freedoms weren’t at risk…

    Outside of the Cold War and nuclear annihilation, there really has been no existential threats to the US, and even if the UK in the War of 1812 wanted to reclaim the US as a colony (they didn’t… they were defending Canada from US invasion, among some other issues), the British extended copious rights to their citizens, more so than any other major power of the time.

    So, in what war has the US war dead died for American rights?

    Twice the US declared war on a Germany that was not a threat to the rights of Americans. How about Japan? They just wanted oil that the US wouldn’t sell them. How about Korea? Vietnam? Iraq? What Constitutional rights were the Taliban threatening? (The freedom to access a trillion dollars in mineral wealth in Afghanistan isn’t in the constitution).

    Personally, I used to joke that I liked “blood for oil” because I liked driving my car and running my air conditioning… but hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and a nation poisoned by depleted uranium shells have caused me to reassess me flippant attitude towards life… Am I pro-life for the unborn only? Jesus died for Iraqis too.

    American service members tend to be honorable men and women, and we should honor them by using correct language rather than mythological language.. it’s one thing to “serve your country.” It’s another to “serve the corporations that will profit from war and imperialist expansionism.”

    If US troops wanted to protect American rights, maybe they should invade Washington DC or bomb the NSA’s secret server farms. (To the NSA monitoring this message, this is not a call to action. I’m being facetious).

    Personally, I consider Daniel, who served a Babylon which destroyed his homeland faithfully. I doubt Daniel hung a Babylonian flag outside his home by his own volition or sang the Babylonian national anthem with gusto. But he probably didn’t root against Babylon either. He served faithfully as if he was serving his God.

    And that’s the attitude I’m adopting as I, a citizen of Heaven on ambassadorial assignment in the US, live here in Illinois. I obey the laws, pay my taxes honestly, and pull for the US in sports competitions. And I hope the military doesn’t fail, but mainly I hope they stop killing people for money.

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